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- * R e n e g a d e L e g i o n *
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- Carding in the '90s
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- The Knight
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- The Night Elite BBS (617)623.7151 (RL HeadQ)
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- 3/17/91
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- It used to be that a person could steal a carbon and find a house
- that no one was occupying during the day, stick up a 'Please
- leave package' note, and your package would be there the next day
- via overnight delivery.
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- This, of course no longer works almost at ALL anymore unless your
- in a relatively unpopulated state. And, you'll need a lot more
- information than a carbon can give you to even get it mailed. I
- have outlined a step by step carding method that HAS WORKED for
- me and has ALWAYS gotten stuff through to the drop every attempt.
- I will go through each step THOROUGHLY as if you were a COMPLETE
- beginner to carding just in case you ARE.
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- 1........Gathering Card Information
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- The first step is getting credit card #'s. The BEST way I have
- found to do this is to use CBI. You will need to get the
- following info from CBI:
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- Credit card #
- Name of bank
- Social Security #
- Address
- FULL name
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- After you get that information from CBI, it is neccessary to call
- information and get the persons REAL phone #. This will NOT be
- used, but you'll need it just in case, I'll explain later.
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- 2........Setting up
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- The setup part is fairly easy, and this involves a slight change
- from past methods of carding. As a 'Phone number you can be
- reached at', You must provide a Direct Dial VMB. So a Direct Dial
- VMB which will pick up with YOUR greeting is a must. This will
- impersonate a home answering machine.
- Change the greetin to "Hello, I can not answer your call...."
- etc.
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- Last of all, Have ALL information ACCESSABLE and EASY to find.
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- Tips:
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- - Run the card through a CC Checker for $1 if you got the
- CC from CBI.
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- Example: 800-554-2265 Bank : 1067 #
- Merchant: 52 #
- Type : 10 # (MC) 20 # (Visa)
- Amount : 100# ($1.00)
- Exp.date: 0193 (1/93, make it
- up,the exp.
- date is NEVER
- checked)
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- - DON'T use American Express, they always call the owner's
- number EVEN if you tell them your not at home!
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- 3........Ordering
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- This is when you actually PLACE the call. You MUST stay calm and
- relax. Tell them what you want to order, the key is to pretend
- like the person with the card is YOU. Play actor, ASK about
- prices FIRST, and DON'T overdo it from one place. Example: Just
- order a loaded 486 with a 200 Mb hard drive, DON'T go and say
- "Yeah, can I have a gig on that?"
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- Then, just order!
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- When it comes to credit card time, remember these:
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- - Do NOT order it OVERNIGHT, Send it 3rd day or something, I
- used the same VMB for 2 months before the police got around to
- shutting it down. Overnight delivery is a flag for them now.
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- - If they ask for "the number on the back of the card" or "The
- issuing bank" (If CBI didn't give you the issuing bank, or you
- didn't know what the initials were)
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- say: "Well, I'm not looking at my card right now." If you need
- to, use phrases like:
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- "My card is in my wallet in the car, I REALLY don't have
- time to go dig it out right now. IS THIS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM!?"
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- They HATE that phrase and I usually get a turnaround of
- 80% saying, no sir, never mind. The Key is, ACT LIKE YOU HAVE
- A DATE IN 25 MINUTES DOWNTOWN, in other words, act rushed
- and pissed off. MOST BUSINESSMEN ARE, Don't kiss their asses
- because businessmen don't!!
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- - Your VMB is your ANSWERING MACHINE, if they catch the
- difference in area code of VMB and Billing address, tell them its
- your summer house or relatives house, but DON'T BRING IT UP.
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- - If they ask for # at Billing address, give them the REAL #,
- they will check with Information only, but be sure to emphasize
- that the number you gave them for the billing address is NOT the
- number your at! Make SURE you say you can be contacted at the VMB
- number for the next week or so.
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- - If they tell you they can't ship to a different address than
- the billing address, stand FIRM, say "Is there ANY way I can
- change this? Can you call my bank or something?!!?" Sound
- ANNOYED, DON'T give up and in about 40% of my calls, the person
- changed their mind.
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- - Do NOT check your VMB every 10 minutes, that looks weird.
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- - DO NOT even TRY to get HST's, those are flagged UP the BUTT,
- and I'd GUESS that soundblasters will be soon.
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- - Tell them you NEED the stuff delivered on X day, and INSIST,
- KEEP insisting! Make SURE. Tell them, "I need to do work on
- XX and I want the machine then"
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- - If you are sending a LOT of machines etc. to ONE drop, Make
- the package ATTENIONED to John Smith or whoever, have ALL the
- packages addressed to the same person. Tell them your sendin it
- to a business associate, relative, wife, whatever. We don't need
- the stuff flagged down at Fed Ex.
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- The key phrase is "I really don't have time for this"
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- And remember: YOUR the CUSTOMER, they don't know you AREN'T the
- card holder, for christ sake, ACT LIKE IT!! DON'T take second
- rate service!!
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- 4........Drops
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- The drop is very important nowadays, you can NOT just leave a
- note, so don't even bother.
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- 4 methode
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- 1. Vacant House Method
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- Put blankets up on windows in house and sit in and sign for
- packages. This method, works, and there are no future problems.
- FUTURE problems, they MAY not beleive you live there etc. so this
- method is a BIT risky
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- 2. Freind's house - Robbed method
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- Tell a freind to sign at HIS house, then call the police at
- 6.00pm and say "I JUST came home and my door was ajar and some
- lights were on, I Don't think anything was stolen, but what
- should I do?"
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- Make sure ALL stuff is cleared out and its safer if the person
- doesn't even have a computer. When the police come by asking
- about packages on X day, bring up your break in. To be safer,
- send something one day late and refuse to sign for it and bring
- it up to the police.
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- 3. Freind's house - Vacant method
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- Sign for the stuff at a freind's house, GET IT OUT, and when the
- police come say " I was on vacation for 3 weeks, I don't know
- ANYTHING about packages" There's NOTHING they can do, and your
- set.
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- The advantages to the last 2 methods are:
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- You won't get bored if nothing comes
- You won't get caught breaking & Entering
- You won't get caught by Fed ex guy and not get stuff
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- I have done #2 AND #3 with success, so it CAN be done.
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- Extra tip: Try US Mail, they haven't caught on yet to the drop
- deal!
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- Have fun and don't get caught!
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- RL
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